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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by Stevie G has broken kidneys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevie G has broken kidneys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. I&#039;d like to know, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. I&#8217;d like to know, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by ashmarie321</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashmarie321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there is a program called rational recovery. Gimmie a sec and I&#039;ll get some more.

EDIT: http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=weblog&amp;id=443&amp;wlid=6&amp;cn=0

This page has AA alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there is a program called rational recovery. Gimmie a sec and I&#8217;ll get some more.</p>
<p>EDIT: <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.12stepcomments.com//goto/http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=weblog&#038;id=443&#038;wlid=6&#038;cn=0"  rel="nofollow">http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=weblog&#038;id=443&#038;wlid=6&#038;cn=0</a></p>
<p>This page has AA alternatives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by irkt</title>
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		<dc:creator>irkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read into the Steps, see the under-lying purpose; acceptance, surrender, open-mindedness, willingness, humility... these are the spiritual principles that tend to be missing from the lives of alcoholics and addicts and it is these that help you to accomplish the change in addictive behavior that define &quot;recovery&quot; vs. merely abstaining.

I know, it&#039;s easy to get stuck on the God word. I&#039;m an agnostic addict in NA. My attraction is 1- it works, 2- no one else gets it besides someone like me and 3- did I say it works?

In NA, we say &quot;ours is a simple, spiritual, not religious program...&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read into the Steps, see the under-lying purpose; acceptance, surrender, open-mindedness, willingness, humility&#8230; these are the spiritual principles that tend to be missing from the lives of alcoholics and addicts and it is these that help you to accomplish the change in addictive behavior that define &#8220;recovery&#8221; vs. merely abstaining.</p>
<p>I know, it&#8217;s easy to get stuck on the God word. I&#8217;m an agnostic addict in NA. My attraction is 1- it works, 2- no one else gets it besides someone like me and 3- did I say it works?</p>
<p>In NA, we say &#8220;ours is a simple, spiritual, not religious program&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by C V</title>
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		<dc:creator>C V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 12-step programs talk about turning yourself over to a higher power, but offer that this power might not be God, but your family or community or whatever else you believe in that&#039;s bigger than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 12-step programs talk about turning yourself over to a higher power, but offer that this power might not be God, but your family or community or whatever else you believe in that&#8217;s bigger than you are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by Prometheus Unbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prometheus Unbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look into SMART (self management and and recovery traing). Or SOS.
Both are secular with No higher power stuff, but may be hard to find depending where you live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look into SMART (self management and and recovery traing). Or SOS.<br />
Both are secular with No higher power stuff, but may be hard to find depending where you live.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by Purplewitchhazel APMVT rehashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purplewitchhazel APMVT rehashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s just plain stupid.

It&#039;s bad enough that someone is going through a rough time with alcohol abuse, but to get help they have no other choice than to &#039;give&#039; themselves to a higher power?

What a crock. Give me booze anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s just plain stupid.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough that someone is going through a rough time with alcohol abuse, but to get help they have no other choice than to &#8216;give&#8217; themselves to a higher power?</p>
<p>What a crock. Give me booze anytime.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by MOTH FATHER REVISITED</title>
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		<dc:creator>MOTH FATHER REVISITED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....I just Googled it and nothing came up. So I guess not.

I thought South Park was just kidding when they did the show on AA...but South Park never lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.I just Googled it and nothing came up. So I guess not.</p>
<p>I thought South Park was just kidding when they did the show on AA&#8230;but South Park never lies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by Huckster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huckster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AA is for atheists too. The &quot;higher power&quot; doesn&#039;t have to be a deity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AA is for atheists too. The &#8220;higher power&#8221; doesn&#8217;t have to be a deity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there any &#8220;12 step programs&#8221; for alcoholic atheists? by Naimov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st step, stop threatening them with your clown face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st step, stop threatening them with your clown face.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drug recovery program? by Hank H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call your local area AA or NA chapter, they have them most all cities now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call your local area AA or NA chapter, they have them most all cities now.</p>
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